From adslmib-bounces@ietf.org Sun Sep 03 05:50:52 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJocZ-000499-Bo; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:50:31 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJocY-00048u-Ez; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:50:30 -0400 Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJocX-0001Q7-Ex; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:50:30 -0400 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k839eUTL026143; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 05:40:31 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Subject: RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 12:49:23 +0300 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum Thread-Index: AcbNCclljguzcEKMRo+ReK3tNkGOGgCM+RTQ From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: , X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3d926c18f94eda32f0a6732c7d97b75a Cc: David Kessens , hubmib@ietf.org, EdwardB@actelis.com, narendranath.nair@wipro.com X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0842290644==" Errors-To: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0842290644== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6CF3E.3C2D6D31" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6CF3E.3C2D6D31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Menachem, =20 I would suggest that you make clear the impact of this charter action on the current charter and schedules of hubmib, if there is any. For this purpose I would suggest that you copy hubmib@ietf.org on further mails on this subject.=20 =20 Please also copy David Kessens. As I am wearing both AD and hubmib chair hats, it's better to have both ADs looking at this.=20 =20 Dan =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com [mailto:Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:08 PM To: adslmib@ietf.org Cc: EdwardB@actelis.com; narendranath.nair@wipro.com Subject: RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum =09 =09 It seems that there is agreement for a common MIB that will hold the common information and will then reference 3 specific MIBs=20 for the ATM, Ethernet and TDIM specific parameters.=20 =09 Unless I hear something to the contrary, I will draft a charter and present it on the mailing list early next week.=20 =09 Best Regards,=20 Menachem=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 =20 31/08/2006 14:07=20 To , , =20 cc adslmib@ietf.org=20 Subject RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum =09 I am also in agreement with having a common MIB and then specific ones based on the L2 technology type.=20 =20 Regards=20 Naren=20 =20 _____ =20 From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:20 PM To: frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be; Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com Cc: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum=20 =20 I agree with Frank, there should be a separate MIB for each G.Bond specification.=20 =20 The ifAvailableStackTable and ifStackTable (with their inverse counterparts) are of course common for all 3 MIBs.=20 =20 We could create a common MIB for all 3 specifications, providing G.Bond overview, referencing 3 specific MIBs and may be even providing some common objects in a MIB, for example LowBandwidth trap etc.=20 =20 Regards,=20 -E.=20 -----Original Message----- From: frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be [mailto:frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:35 AM To: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com Cc: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum=20 Menachem, Liaison is OK. On the bonding MIB: the three bonding standards each handle different things (cells, packets,bits). So I believe the MIBs should be separate as I expect a lot of the managed objects will be different. Regards, Frank =09 =09 Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com wrote: =09 =09 Hello,=20 =09 I haven't received any further feedback on the Liaison, so I will send it to the DSL Forum.=20 =09 Regarding xDSL bonding issue, I believe that:=20 =09 1. There is Working Group agreement to base our work on the three ITU-T specifications: G.998.1 (ATM), G.998.2 (Ethernet) and G.998.3 (TDIM).=20 =09 2. There are differing opinions as to whether there should be one MIB or 3 separate MIBs to handle the three=20 cases - ATM, Ethernet, and TDIM.=20 =09 =09 I wish to resolve this issue now, so I would appreciate if everyone would state their opinion (again).=20 =09 Best Regards,=20 Menachem=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 Menachem Dodge/ECI Telecom=20 28/08/2006 19:02=20 To adslmib@ietf.org =20 cc =20 Subject Liaison to DSL Forum =20 =20 =09 =09 Hi,=20 =09 I have added an additional paragraph informing the DSL Forum of our progress on the VDSL2 MIB (as per the charter). Let me know if you have any comments, until Wednesday 30th August.=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=20 =09 =09 Regarding the xDSL Bonding, I have several volunteers for editors of the document(s) but I need to know if there is anyone=20 prepared to review the document. Please let me know (privately if you wish) whether you are willing to review the document. It would be helpful=20 to know if there is anyone who will be implementing the MIB as well.=20 =09 Once I have this, the following steps are required:=20 =09 1. I will put forward a modified charter for approval by the Working Group.=20 2. Once approved by the Working Group, I will send the new charter text to the AD, Dan Romascanu, requesting that he brings the charter to the IESG for approval.=20 =09 =09 = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =09 Regarding the Vdsl2 draft, I would like to see some review, comments, feedback ....=20 =20 =09 Best Regards,=20 Menachem=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 _____ =20 =09 =09 =09 =20 Subject: Response To Your Liaison on WT-129.=20 =20 Date: 28th August, 2006.=20 =20 =20 To: Gavin Young,=20 DSL Forum Technical Committee Chair=20 "Gavin Young" =20 =20 Peter Adams,=20 DSL Forum Operations and Network Management Working Group Chair=20 "Peter Adams" =20 =20 =20 Cc: IETF statements@ietf.org =20 IAB@ietf.org =20 =20 Loa Andersson=20 "Loa Andersson" =20 =20 Dan Romascanu=20 Operations and Management Area Director=20 "Romascanu, Dan" =20 =20 Michael Sneed=20 IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Co-Chair=20 "Michael Sneed" sneedmike@hotmail.com =20 =20 =20 From: IETF ADSL MIB Working Group=20 =20 Response contact: Menachem Dodge=20 IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Co-Chair=20 "Menachem Dodge" =20 =20 Technical contact: "Menachem Dodge" =20 =20 =20 PURPOSE: Response=20 =20 Subject: Response To Your Liaison on WT-129.=20 =20 Dear Gavin and Peter,=20 =20 =20 Thank you for your liaison and WT-129 Version 3.0. We would be very grateful if=20 you would continue to keep us informed of any changes to this Working Text document.=20 =20 As I informed you in February this year, work has begun on development of a MIB=20 for DSL (ADSL, ADSL2, ADSL2+ and VDSL2) lines. This work has progressed and the latest draft=20 can be found at http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-vdsl2-01.txt . We would=20 be most pleased, if you would inform us of any feedback that the DSL Forum may have on this=20 document.=20 =20 We would like to raise the issue of xDSL Bonding, as defined by the ITU-T documents=20 G.998.1, G.998.2 and G.998.3. The management of xDSL Bonded lines has currently not been=20 addressed, by the DSL Forum. The IETF ADSL MIB Working Group believes that this issue is important=20 and would be very pleased if the DSL Forum Operations and Network Management Working Group=20 would address this issue and provide a management framework for xDSL Bonding.=20 =20 =20 Yours Sincerely,=20 =20 =20 Menachem Dodge=20 IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Co-Chair=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =09 =09 =09 _____ =20 =09 =09 =09 =20 _______________________________________________=20 Adslmib mailing list=20 Adslmib@ietf.org =20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib =20 _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6CF3E.3C2D6D31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Menachem,
 
I would suggest that you make clear the = impact of=20 this charter action on the current charter and schedules of hubmib, if = there is=20 any. For this purpose I would suggest that you copy hubmib@ietf.org on further mails on = this=20 subject.
 
Please also copy David Kessens. As I am wearing both AD and = hubmib chair=20 hats, it's better to have both ADs looking at this.=20
 
Dan
 
 
 
 
 
 

From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com=20 [mailto:Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com]
Sent: Thursday, August = 31, 2006=20 3:08 PM
To: adslmib@ietf.org
Cc: = EdwardB@actelis.com;=20 narendranath.nair@wipro.com
Subject: RE: [Adslmib] Re: = Liaison to=20 DSL Forum


It seems that there is = agreement=20 for a common MIB that will hold the common information and will then = reference=20 3 specific MIBs
for the = ATM, Ethernet=20 and TDIM specific parameters.

Unless I hear something to the contrary, I will draft a = charter and=20 present it on the mailing list early next week.

Best Regards,
Menachem



<narendranath.nair@wipro.com>

31/08/2006 14:07

To
<EdwardB@actelis.com>,=20 <frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be>,=20 <Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com>=20
cc
adslmib@ietf.org =
Subject
RE: [Adslmib] Re: = Liaison to DSL=20 Forum

=




I am also in agreement with having a common = MIB and then=20 specific ones based on the L2 technology type.
 
Regards
Naren=20
 =20


From: Edward Beili=20 [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, = 2006 4:20=20 PM
To: frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be;=20 Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com
Cc: = adslmib@ietf.org
Subject:=20 RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum
 
I = agree with=20 Frank, there should be a separate MIB for each G.Bond = specification.=20
 
The ifAvailableStackTable and ifStackTable (with = their=20 inverse counterparts) are of course common for all 3 MIBs. =
 
We could create a common MIB for all 3 specifications, = providing G.Bond=20 overview, referencing 3 specific MIBs and may be even providing some = common=20 objects in a MIB, for example LowBandwidth trap etc.
 
Regards,
-E.=20
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be=20 [mailto:frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be]
Sent: Thursday, = August 31,=20 2006 11:35 AM
To: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com
Cc:=20 adslmib@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL=20 Forum
Menachem,
Liaison is=20 OK.
On the bonding MIB: the three bonding standards each handle = different=20 things (cells, packets,bits).
So I believe the MIBs should be = separate as I=20 expect a lot of the managed objects will be=20 different.
Regards,
Frank


Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com wrote:


Hello,

       I haven't = received any=20 further feedback on the Liaison, so I will send it to the DSL=20 Forum.

          =    =20  Regarding xDSL bonding issue, I believe that:

       1.  There is Working = Group=20 agreement to base our work on the three ITU-T specifications: G.998.1 (ATM), G.998.2 (Ethernet) and G.998.3 = (TDIM).

       2. There are differing = opinions as to=20 whether there should be one MIB or 3 separate MIBs to handle the three =
cases - ATM, Ethernet, and TDIM.


  =    =20  I wish to resolve this issue now, so I would appreciate if = everyone=20 would state their opinion (again).=20

Best = Regards,
Menachem


Menachem = Dodge/ECI=20 Telecom

28/08/2006 19:02


To
adslmib@ietf.org
cc
 =20
Subject
Liaison to DSL=20 Forum

 =20


 =20  

<= BR>

Hi, =

       I have added = an=20 additional paragraph informing the DSL Forum of our progress on the = VDSL2 MIB=20 (as per the charter). Let me know=20
if you have any comments, = until=20 Wednesday 30th August.=20





  =  =20   =  =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D


  =    =20  Regarding the xDSL Bonding, I have several volunteers for = editors of the=20 document(s) but I need to know if there is anyone
prepared to = review the=20 document. Please let me know (privately if you wish) whether you are = willing=20 to review the document. It would be helpful
to know if there = is anyone who=20 will be implementing the MIB as well.

    =  =20  Once I have this, the following steps are required:

       1. I will put forward a = modified charter=20 for approval by the Working Group.=20
      =  2. Once=20 approved by the Working Group, I will send the new charter text to the = AD, Dan=20 Romascanu, requesting that he brings the
charter to the = IESG for=20 approval. =


     =20 =  =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=20

      =    =20      Regarding the Vdsl2 draft, I would like to see = some=20 review, comments, feedback ....=20
      =    =20      

Best = Regards,
Menachem







 
Subject: Response To Your Liaison on WT-129.
 
Date:  28th August, 2006.
 
 =20
To:    Gavin Young,=20
      =  DSL=20 Forum Technical Committee Chair
       "Gavin Young" <gyoung@dslforum.org>
 
       Peter Adams,
       DSL Forum = Operations and=20 Network Management Working Group Chair
       "Peter Adams" <p.f.adams@btopenworld.com>
 
 
Cc: =    IETF=20 statements@ietf.org
       IAB@ietf.org
       
       Loa Andersson
       "Loa = Andersson" <loa@pi.se>
 
  =    =20  Dan Romascanu
   =20    Operations and Management Area Director
       "Romascanu, = Dan"=20 <dromasca@avaya.com>
 
       Michael Sneed
       IETF ADSL MIB = Working=20 Group Co-Chair
  =    =20  "Michael Sneed" sneedmike@hotmail.com=20
      =  =20
 
From:  IETF ADSL MIB Working Group
 
Response  contact:   Menachem Dodge =
          =    =20           IETF ADSL MIB Working Group = Co-Chair=20
        =    =20             "Menachem Dodge" <menachem.dodge@ecitele.com> =
 
Technical contact:      "Menachem Dodge" = <menachem.dodge@ecitele.com> =
 
 
PURPOSE:=20 Response
  =
Subject: Response To Your Liaison on = WT-129.=20
 
Dear Gavin and Peter,
 
 =20
      Thank you = for your=20 liaison and WT-129 Version 3.0. We would be very grateful if =
you would continue to keep us informed = of any=20 changes to this Working Text document.
 
  =    =20 As I informed you in February this year, work has begun on development = of a=20 MIB
for DSL (ADSL, = ADSL2, ADSL2+=20 and VDSL2) lines. This work has progressed and the latest draft =
can be found at http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-vdsl2-= 01.txt. We would
be most pleased, if you would inform us of any feedback that = the DSL=20 Forum may have on this
document.
 =20
      We would = like to=20 raise the issue of xDSL Bonding, as defined by the ITU-T = documents=20
 G.998.1, G.998.2 and = G.998.3.=20  The management of xDSL Bonded lines has currently not been=20
addressed, by the DSL = Forum. The=20 IETF ADSL MIB Working Group believes that this issue is = important=20
and would be very pleased if = the DSL Forum=20 Operations and Network Management Working Group
would address this issue and provide a = management=20 framework for xDSL Bonding.
 
 =20
      Yours=20 Sincerely,
 
 
      Menachem Dodge
        IETF ADSL MIB Working Group = Co-Chair=20
 
 
 =20
     






 
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I believe that the only impact for the hubmib WG is the change that was stated earlier for the Efm Cu MIB namely, the separation of the ifAvailableStack MIB and the addition of the ifInvAvailableStack MIB into a distinct MIB module with revised DESCRIPTION. Best Regards, Menachem "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" 03/09/2006 12:49 To , cc David Kessens , hubmib@ietf.org, EdwardB@actelis.com, narendranath.nair@wipro.com Subject RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum Menachem, I would suggest that you make clear the impact of this charter action on the current charter and schedules of hubmib, if there is any. For this purpose I would suggest that you copy hubmib@ietf.org on further mails on this subject. Please also copy David Kessens. As I am wearing both AD and hubmib chair hats, it's better to have both ADs looking at this. Dan From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com [mailto:Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:08 PM To: adslmib@ietf.org Cc: EdwardB@actelis.com; narendranath.nair@wipro.com Subject: RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum It seems that there is agreement for a common MIB that will hold the common information and will then reference 3 specific MIBs for the ATM, Ethernet and TDIM specific parameters. Unless I hear something to the contrary, I will draft a charter and present it on the mailing list early next week. Best Regards, Menachem 31/08/2006 14:07 To , , cc adslmib@ietf.org Subject RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum I am also in agreement with having a common MIB and then specific ones based on the L2 technology type. Regards Naren From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:20 PM To: frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be; Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com Cc: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum I agree with Frank, there should be a separate MIB for each G.Bond specification. The ifAvailableStackTable and ifStackTable (with their inverse counterparts) are of course common for all 3 MIBs. We could create a common MIB for all 3 specifications, providing G.Bond overview, referencing 3 specific MIBs and may be even providing some common objects in a MIB, for example LowBandwidth trap etc. Regards, -E. -----Original Message----- From: frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be [mailto:frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:35 AM To: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com Cc: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum Menachem, Liaison is OK. On the bonding MIB: the three bonding standards each handle different things (cells, packets,bits). So I believe the MIBs should be separate as I expect a lot of the managed objects will be different. Regards, Frank Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com wrote: Hello, I haven't received any further feedback on the Liaison, so I will send it to the DSL Forum. Regarding xDSL bonding issue, I believe that: 1. There is Working Group agreement to base our work on the three ITU-T specifications: G.998.1 (ATM), G.998.2 (Ethernet) and G.998.3 (TDIM). 2. There are differing opinions as to whether there should be one MIB or 3 separate MIBs to handle the three cases - ATM, Ethernet, and TDIM. I wish to resolve this issue now, so I would appreciate if everyone would state their opinion (again). Best Regards, Menachem Menachem Dodge/ECI Telecom 28/08/2006 19:02 To adslmib@ietf.org cc Subject Liaison to DSL Forum Hi, I have added an additional paragraph informing the DSL Forum of our progress on the VDSL2 MIB (as per the charter). Let me know if you have any comments, until Wednesday 30th August. ========================== Regarding the xDSL Bonding, I have several volunteers for editors of the document(s) but I need to know if there is anyone prepared to review the document. Please let me know (privately if you wish) whether you are willing to review the document. It would be helpful to know if there is anyone who will be implementing the MIB as well. Once I have this, the following steps are required: 1. I will put forward a modified charter for approval by the Working Group. 2. Once approved by the Working Group, I will send the new charter text to the AD, Dan Romascanu, requesting that he brings the charter to the IESG for approval. ======================== Regarding the Vdsl2 draft, I would like to see some review, comments, feedback .... Best Regards, Menachem Subject: Response To Your Liaison on WT-129. Date: 28th August, 2006. To: Gavin Young, DSL Forum Technical Committee Chair "Gavin Young" Peter Adams, DSL Forum Operations and Network Management Working Group Chair "Peter Adams" Cc: IETF statements@ietf.org IAB@ietf.org Loa Andersson "Loa Andersson" Dan Romascanu Operations and Management Area Director "Romascanu, Dan" Michael Sneed IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Co-Chair "Michael Sneed" sneedmike@hotmail.com From: IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Response contact: Menachem Dodge IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Co-Chair "Menachem Dodge" Technical contact: "Menachem Dodge" PURPOSE: Response Subject: Response To Your Liaison on WT-129. Dear Gavin and Peter, Thank you for your liaison and WT-129 Version 3.0. We would be very grateful if you would continue to keep us informed of any changes to this Working Text document. As I informed you in February this year, work has begun on development of a MIB for DSL (ADSL, ADSL2, ADSL2+ and VDSL2) lines. This work has progressed and the latest draft can be found at http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-vdsl2-01.txt. We would be most pleased, if you would inform us of any feedback that the DSL Forum may have on this document. We would like to raise the issue of xDSL Bonding, as defined by the ITU-T documents G.998.1, G.998.2 and G.998.3. The management of xDSL Bonded lines has currently not been addressed, by the DSL Forum. The IETF ADSL MIB Working Group believes that this issue is important and would be very pleased if the DSL Forum Operations and Network Management Working Group would address this issue and provide a management framework for xDSL Bonding. 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Dan,

        Ok, I will copy the hubmib WG and David Kessens on all further emails on this subject.

        I believe that the only impact for the hubmib WG is the change that was stated earlier for the Efm Cu MIB namely,
the separation of the ifAvailableStack MIB and the addition of the ifInvAvailableStack MIB into a distinct MIB module with
revised DESCRIPTION.

       
Best Regards,
Menachem




"Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <dromasca@avaya.com>

03/09/2006 12:49

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Menachem,
 
I would suggest that you make clear the impact of this charter action on the current charter and schedules of hubmib, if there is any. For this purpose I would suggest that you copy hubmib@ietf.org on further mails on this subject.
 
Please also copy David Kessens. As I am wearing both AD and hubmib chair hats, it's better to have both ADs looking at this.
 
Dan
 
 
 
 
 
 

From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com [mailto:Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:08 PM
To: adslmib@ietf.org
Cc: EdwardB@actelis.com; narendranath.nair@wipro.com
Subject: RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum

It seems that there is agreement for a common MIB that will hold the common information and will then reference 3 specific MIBs
for the ATM, Ethernet and TDIM specific parameters.

Unless I hear something to the contrary, I will draft a charter and present it on the mailing list early next week.

Best Regards,
Menachem


<narendranath.nair@wipro.com>

31/08/2006 14:07


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I am also in agreement with having a common MIB and then specific ones based on the L2 technology type.
 
Regards
Naren
 




From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:20 PM
To: frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be; Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com
Cc: adslmib@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum
 
I agree with Frank, there should be a separate MIB for each G.Bond specification.
 
The ifAvailableStackTable and ifStackTable (with their inverse counterparts) are of course common for all 3 MIBs.
 
We could create a common MIB for all 3 specifications, providing G.Bond overview, referencing 3 specific MIBs and may be even providing some common objects in a MIB, for example LowBandwidth trap etc.
 
Regards,
-E.
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From: frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be [mailto:frank.van_der_putten@alcatel.be]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:35 AM
To: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com
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Subject: Re: [Adslmib] Re: Liaison to DSL Forum
Menachem,
Liaison is OK.
On the bonding MIB: the three bonding standards each handle different things (cells, packets,bits).
So I believe the MIBs should be separate as I expect a lot of the managed objects will be different.
Regards,
Frank


Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com wrote:


Hello,

      I haven't received any further feedback on the Liaison, so I will send it to the DSL Forum.

              Regarding xDSL bonding issue, I believe that:

      1.  There is Working Group agreement to base our work on the three ITU-T specifications: G.998.1 (ATM), G.998.2 (Ethernet) and G.998.3 (TDIM).

      2. There are differing opinions as to whether there should be one MIB or 3 separate MIBs to handle the three
cases - ATM, Ethernet, and TDIM.


      I wish to resolve this issue now, so I would appreciate if everyone would state their opinion (again).

Best Regards,
Menachem

Menachem Dodge/ECI Telecom

28/08/2006 19:02


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Liaison to DSL Forum


 


   




Hi,

      I have added an additional paragraph informing the DSL Forum of our progress on the VDSL2 MIB (as per the charter). Let me know
if you have any comments, until Wednesday 30th August.





      ==========================


      Regarding the xDSL Bonding, I have several volunteers for editors of the document(s) but I need to know if there is anyone
prepared to review the document. Please let me know (privately if you wish) whether you are willing to review the document. It would be helpful
to know if there is anyone who will be implementing the MIB as well.

      Once I have this, the following steps are required:

      1. I will put forward a modified charter for approval by the Working Group.
      2. Once approved by the Working Group, I will send the new charter text to the AD, Dan Romascanu, requesting that he brings the
charter to the IESG for approval.


      ========================

              Regarding the Vdsl2 draft, I would like to see some review, comments, feedback ....
             

Best Regards,
Menachem








 
Subject: Response To Your Liaison on WT-129.
 
Date:  28th August, 2006.
 
 
To:    Gavin Young,
      DSL Forum Technical Committee Chair
      "Gavin Young" <gyoung@dslforum.org>
 
      Peter Adams,
      DSL Forum Operations and Network Management Working Group Chair
      "Peter Adams" <p.f.adams@btopenworld.com>
 
 
Cc:    IETF statements@ietf.org
      IAB@ietf.org
       
      Loa Andersson
      "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.se>
 
      Dan Romascanu
      Operations and Management Area Director
      "Romascanu, Dan" <dromasca@avaya.com>
 
      Michael Sneed
      IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Co-Chair
      "Michael Sneed" sneedmike@hotmail.com
       
 
From:  IETF ADSL MIB Working Group
 
Response  contact:   Menachem Dodge
                       IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Co-Chair
                       "Menachem Dodge" <menachem.dodge@ecitele.com>
 
Technical contact:      "Menachem Dodge" <menachem.dodge@ecitele.com>
 
 
PURPOSE: Response
 
Subject: Response To Your Liaison on WT-129.
 
Dear Gavin and Peter,
 
 
     Thank you for your liaison and WT-129 Version 3.0. We would be very grateful if
you would continue to keep us informed of any changes to this Working Text document.
 
     As I informed you in February this year, work has begun on development of a MIB
for DSL (ADSL, ADSL2, ADSL2+ and VDSL2) lines. This work has progressed and the latest draft
can be found at http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-vdsl2-01.txt. We would
be most pleased, if you would inform us of any feedback that the DSL Forum may have on this
document.
 
     We would like to raise the issue of xDSL Bonding, as defined by the ITU-T documents
G.998.1, G.998.2 and G.998.3.  The management of xDSL Bonded lines has currently not been
addressed, by the DSL Forum. The IETF ADSL MIB Working Group believes that this issue is important
and would be very pleased if the DSL Forum Operations and Network Management Working Group
would address this issue and provide a management framework for xDSL Bonding.
 
 
     Yours Sincerely,
 
 
     Menachem Dodge
       IETF ADSL MIB Working Group Co-Chair
 
 
 
     







 
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Hi All,

        I would like to thank Edward Beili, Naren Nair and Moti Morgenstern for agreeing to work as editors on the xDSL Bonding documents.
Many thanks as well to Clay Sikes, Umberto Bonollo and Scott Baillie for agreeing to act as reviewers of these documents.

        I am attaching the draft of the updated charter. Please provide your comments.




        Due to the status of the G.997.1 and WT-129, I wish to allow additional time before the VDSL2 document goes to Last Call. This
will allow these documents to be finalised before the work on the VDSL2 document is completed. I hope that this change is acceptable.
I am expecting reviews from Clay, Naren and Veena on the VDSL2 document and thank them for their efforts.

       

Best Regards,
Menachem
--=_alternative 00543E27C22571DE_=-- --=_mixed 00543E27C22571DE_= Content-Type: text/plain; name="charter.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="charter.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The working group will define: 1. A set of managed objects to be used for management of newer versions of Digital Subscriber Line (xDSL) as=20 defined in ITU-T Recommendation G.997.1 (02/2006). 2. A set of managed objects to handle the bonding of xDSL lines according to the ITU-T Recommendations G.998.1 (ATM), G.998.2 (Ethernet) and=20 G.998.3 (TDIM). A common MIB will be developed to handle the common objects and three specific MIBs will be developed to handle the three s= eparate=20 layer-2 technologies. Use will be made of the ifStack and ifInvStack Ta= bles defined=20 in RFC 2863 and RFC 2864 respectively. Use will also be made of the=20 ifAvailableStack and ifInvAvailableStack tables as defined by the Hubmi= b WG. The MIB defined by this group will be generated using SMIv2, will be consistent with the SNMP management framework, and will describe the relationship of the objects defined to existing MIBs such as those described in other work products of this Working Group, the interfaces MIB, and the AToM MIB. The working group will consider the input of the DSL forum and the ITU in the definition of these MIBs. Goals and Milestones =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 Nov 2006 Initial draft of all four xDsl bonding MIBs (1 Common and 3 spe= cific MIB drafts). DEC 2006 Inform the ITU-T and DSL Forum that work has begun on the xDSL = Bonding MIBs. Dec 2006 Complete WG last call on VDSL2 MIB. Jan 2006 Submit VDSL2 MIB to IESG for consideration as Proposed Standard. Jan 2007 Updated draft for all four xDsl bonding MIBs. Feb 2007 Inform the ITU-T and DSL Forum of the progress on the xDSL Bond= ing MIBs. Mar 2007 Complete WG last call on the four xDsl bonding MIBs. Apr 2007 Submit the four xDsl bonding MIBs to IESG for consideration as = a Proposed Standard. May 2007 Recharter or close down. --=_mixed 00543E27C22571DE_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib --=_mixed 00543E27C22571DE_=-- From adslmib-bounces@ietf.org Thu Sep 07 09:45:44 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLKBy-0001nC-Am; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:45:18 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLKBx-0001n4-16; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:45:17 -0400 Received: from ilsmtp01.ecitele.com ([147.234.1.11]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLKBv-0005iR-CE; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:45:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: adslmib@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.3 September 14, 2004 Message-ID: From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:45:08 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on ILSMTP01/ECI Telecom(Release 6.5.3FP1 | December 22, 2004) at 09/07/2006 16:53:53 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_mixed 004B8B0DC22571E2_=" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bf422c85703d3d847fb014987125ac48 Cc: David Kessens , hubmib@ietf.org Subject: [Adslmib] Re: xDsl Bonding X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org --=_mixed 004B8B0DC22571E2_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004B8B0DC22571E2_=" --=_alternative 004B8B0DC22571E2_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi All, I have not received any comments regarding the proposed charter. If there is no response until Tuesday 12th September, I will assume that everyone agrees to the text and proceed with the re-charter. Best Regards, Menachem Dodge Menachem Dodge/ECI Telecom 03/09/2006 18:20 To adslmib@ietf.org cc David Kessens , "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , hubmib@ietf.org Subject xDsl Bonding Hi All, I would like to thank Edward Beili, Naren Nair and Moti Morgenstern for agreeing to work as editors on the xDSL Bonding documents. Many thanks as well to Clay Sikes, Umberto Bonollo and Scott Baillie for agreeing to act as reviewers of these documents. I am attaching the draft of the updated charter. Please provide your comments. Due to the status of the G.997.1 and WT-129, I wish to allow additional time before the VDSL2 document goes to Last Call. This will allow these documents to be finalised before the work on the VDSL2 document is completed. I hope that this change is acceptable. I am expecting reviews from Clay, Naren and Veena on the VDSL2 document and thank them for their efforts. Best Regards, Menachem --=_alternative 004B8B0DC22571E2_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi All,

I have not received any comments regarding the proposed charter.

If there is no response until Tuesday 12th September, I will assume that everyone agrees to the text and proceed with the re-charter.

Best Regards,
Menachem Dodge


Menachem Dodge/ECI Telecom

03/09/2006 18:20

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Subject
xDsl Bonding




Hi All,

        I would like to thank Edward Beili, Naren Nair and Moti Morgenstern for agreeing to work as editors on the xDSL Bonding documents.
Many thanks as well to Clay Sikes, Umberto Bonollo and Scott Baillie for agreeing to act as reviewers of these documents.

        I am attaching the draft of the updated charter. Please provide your comments.




        Due to the status of the G.997.1 and WT-129, I wish to allow additional time before the VDSL2 document goes to Last Call. This
will allow these documents to be finalised before the work on the VDSL2 document is completed. I hope that this change is acceptable.
I am expecting reviews from Clay, Naren and Veena on the VDSL2 document and thank them for their efforts.

       

Best Regards,
Menachem

--=_alternative 004B8B0DC22571E2_=-- --=_mixed 004B8B0DC22571E2_= Content-Type: text/plain; name="charter.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="charter.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The working group will define: 1. A set of managed objects to be used for management of newer versions of Digital Subscriber Line (xDSL) as=20 defined in ITU-T Recommendation G.997.1 (02/2006). 2. A set of managed objects to handle the bonding of xDSL lines according to the ITU-T Recommendations G.998.1 (ATM), G.998.2 (Ethernet) and=20 G.998.3 (TDIM). A common MIB will be developed to handle the common objects and three specific MIBs will be developed to handle the three s= eparate=20 layer-2 technologies. Use will be made of the ifStack and ifInvStack Ta= bles defined=20 in RFC 2863 and RFC 2864 respectively. Use will also be made of the=20 ifAvailableStack and ifInvAvailableStack tables as defined by the Hubmi= b WG. The MIB defined by this group will be generated using SMIv2, will be consistent with the SNMP management framework, and will describe the relationship of the objects defined to existing MIBs such as those described in other work products of this Working Group, the interfaces MIB, and the AToM MIB. The working group will consider the input of the DSL forum and the ITU in the definition of these MIBs. Goals and Milestones =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 Nov 2006 Initial draft of all four xDsl bonding MIBs (1 Common and 3 spe= cific MIB drafts). DEC 2006 Inform the ITU-T and DSL Forum that work has begun on the xDSL = Bonding MIBs. Dec 2006 Complete WG last call on VDSL2 MIB. Jan 2006 Submit VDSL2 MIB to IESG for consideration as Proposed Standard. Jan 2007 Updated draft for all four xDsl bonding MIBs. Feb 2007 Inform the ITU-T and DSL Forum of the progress on the xDSL Bond= ing MIBs. Mar 2007 Complete WG last call on the four xDsl bonding MIBs. Apr 2007 Submit the four xDsl bonding MIBs to IESG for consideration as = a Proposed Standard. May 2007 Recharter or close down. --=_mixed 004B8B0DC22571E2_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib --=_mixed 004B8B0DC22571E2_=-- From adslmib-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 08 12:35:40 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLjKC-0007vl-Oa; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:35:28 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLjKB-0007vX-TD; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:35:27 -0400 Received: from co300216-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.13.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLjKA-0006hC-Fb; Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:35:27 -0400 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by co300216-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k88GSMxF009501; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:28:23 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:35:22 +0300 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: xDsl Bonding Thread-Index: AcbSg9hrcxK4Vx5OQl2rC+81ictYdAA4KVAg From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: , X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a0534e6179a1e260079328e8b03c7901 Cc: David Kessens , hubmib@ietf.org Subject: [Adslmib] RE: xDsl Bonding X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0081873161==" Errors-To: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0081873161== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6D364.C7C93AED" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6D364.C7C93AED Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Messages on the lines of 'I read, agree and am interested in this work' are also welcome.=20 =20 Dan =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com [mailto:Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:45 PM To: adslmib@ietf.org Cc: David Kessens; Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org Subject: Re: xDsl Bonding =09 =09 Hi All,=20 =09 I have not received any comments regarding the proposed charter. =09 If there is no response until Tuesday 12th September, I will assume that everyone agrees to the text and proceed with the re-charter. =09 Best Regards,=20 Menachem Dodge =09 =09 =09 =09 Menachem Dodge/ECI Telecom=20 03/09/2006 18:20=20 To adslmib@ietf.org=20 cc David Kessens , "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , hubmib@ietf.org=20 Subject xDsl Bonding =09 Hi All,=20 =09 I would like to thank Edward Beili, Naren Nair and Moti Morgenstern for agreeing to work as editors on the xDSL Bonding documents.=20 Many thanks as well to Clay Sikes, Umberto Bonollo and Scott Baillie for agreeing to act as reviewers of these documents.=20 =09 I am attaching the draft of the updated charter. Please provide your comments.=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 Due to the status of the G.997.1 and WT-129, I wish to allow additional time before the VDSL2 document goes to Last Call. This=20 will allow these documents to be finalised before the work on the VDSL2 document is completed. I hope that this change is acceptable.=20 I am expecting reviews from Clay, Naren and Veena on the VDSL2 document and thank them for their efforts.=20 =09 =20 =09 Best Regards,=20 Menachem=20 =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6D364.C7C93AED Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Messages on the lines of 'I read, agree and am = interested in=20 this work' are also welcome.
 
Dan
 
 
 

From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com=20 [mailto:Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com]
Sent: Thursday, = September 07,=20 2006 4:45 PM
To: adslmib@ietf.org
Cc: David = Kessens;=20 Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: Re: xDsl=20 Bonding


Hi All, =

I have not received any comments regarding = the proposed=20 charter.

If there is = no response=20 until Tuesday 12th September, I will assume that everyone agrees to = the text=20 and proceed with the re-charter.

Best Regards,
Menachem=20 Dodge



Menachem = Dodge/ECI=20 Telecom

03/09/2006 18:20

To
adslmib@ietf.org =
cc
David Kessens=20 <david.kessens@nokia.com>, "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)"=20 <dromasca@avaya.com>, hubmib@ietf.org=20
Subject
xDsl=20 Bonding

=



Hi All,

        I would like to thank Edward = Beili, Naren=20 Nair and Moti Morgenstern for agreeing to work as editors on the xDSL = Bonding=20 documents.
Many thanks as = well to Clay=20 Sikes, Umberto Bonollo and Scott Baillie for agreeing to act as = reviewers of=20 these documents.

   =20     I am attaching the draft of the updated charter. Please = provide=20 your comments.




 =20       Due to the status of the G.997.1 and WT-129, I = wish to=20 allow additional time before the VDSL2 document goes to Last Call. = This=20
will allow these documents to be = finalised=20 before the work on the VDSL2 document is completed. I hope that this = change is=20 acceptable.
I am expecting = reviews=20 from Clay, Naren and Veena on the VDSL2 document and thank them for = their=20 efforts.

    =  =20  

Best = Regards,=20
Menachem=20

------_=_NextPart_001_01C6D364.C7C93AED-- --===============0081873161== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib --===============0081873161==-- From adslmib-bounces@ietf.org Sat Sep 09 02:36:51 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLwS7-0000zV-N4; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:36:31 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLwS2-0000Nf-2y; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:36:26 -0400 Received: from wip-ec-wd.wipro.com ([203.91.193.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLwLU-0003UT-Uv; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:29:43 -0400 Received: from wip-ec-wd.wipro.com (localhost.wipro.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2D02068D; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:55:20 +0530 (IST) Received: from blr-ec-bh02.wipro.com (blr-ec-bh02.wipro.com [10.201.50.92]) by wip-ec-wd.wipro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F80205F6; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:55:20 +0530 (IST) Received: from BLR-EC-MBX01.wipro.com ([10.201.50.164]) by blr-ec-bh02.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:59:26 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Adslmib] RE: xDsl Bonding Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:57:28 +0530 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Adslmib] RE: xDsl Bonding Thread-Index: AcbSg9hrcxK4Vx5OQl2rC+81ictYdAA4KVAgABzaoBA= From: To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2006 06:29:26.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C428670:01C6D3D9] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4b21264b25b2584da3ddf2bd579ca48f Cc: david.kessens@nokia.com, hubmib@ietf.org X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0115843382==" Errors-To: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0115843382== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6D3D9.4BE07A41" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6D3D9.4BE07A41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Romascanu, =20 Iam very much interested in modeling XDSL bonding . =20 Regards, veena =20 ________________________________ From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]=20 Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:05 PM To: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com; adslmib@ietf.org Cc: David Kessens; hubmib@ietf.org Subject: [Adslmib] RE: xDsl Bonding =20 Messages on the lines of 'I read, agree and am interested in this work' are also welcome.=20 =20 Dan =20 =20 =20 =20 =09 ________________________________ From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com [mailto:Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:45 PM To: adslmib@ietf.org Cc: David Kessens; Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org Subject: Re: xDsl Bonding =09 Hi All,=20 =09 I have not received any comments regarding the proposed charter. =09 If there is no response until Tuesday 12th September, I will assume that everyone agrees to the text and proceed with the re-charter. =09 Best Regards,=20 Menachem Dodge =09 =09 =09 Menachem Dodge/ECI Telecom=20 03/09/2006 18:20=20 To adslmib@ietf.org=20 cc David Kessens , "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , hubmib@ietf.org=20 Subject xDsl Bonding =20 =20 =20 =09 =09 Hi All,=20 =09 I would like to thank Edward Beili, Naren Nair and Moti Morgenstern for agreeing to work as editors on the xDSL Bonding documents.=20 Many thanks as well to Clay Sikes, Umberto Bonollo and Scott Baillie for agreeing to act as reviewers of these documents.=20 =09 I am attaching the draft of the updated charter. Please provide your comments.=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 Due to the status of the G.997.1 and WT-129, I wish to allow additional time before the VDSL2 document goes to Last Call. This=20 will allow these documents to be finalised before the work on the VDSL2 document is completed. I hope that this change is acceptable.=20 I am expecting reviews from Clay, Naren and Veena on the VDSL2 document and thank them for their efforts.=20 =09 =20 =09 Best Regards,=20 Menachem=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6D3D9.4BE07A41 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello = Romascanu,

 

Iam very much interested in = modeling XDSL bonding .

 

Regards,

veena

 

From: = Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Friday, September = 08, 2006 10:05 PM
To: = Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com; adslmib@ietf.org
Cc: David Kessens; = hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Adslmib] RE: = xDsl Bonding

 

= Messages on the lines of 'I read, agree and am interested in this work' are also welcome.

 

= Dan

 

 

 

 

From: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com [mailto:Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com]
Sent: Thursday, September = 07, 2006 4:45 PM
To: adslmib@ietf.org
Cc: David Kessens; = Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: Re: xDsl = Bonding


Hi All,

I have not received any comments regarding the proposed charter. =

If there is no response until Tuesday 12th September, I will assume that = everyone agrees to the text and proceed with the re-charter.

Best Regards,
Menachem Dodge


Menachem Dodge/ECI = Telecom =

03/09/2006 18:20

To

adslmib@ietf.org =

cc

David Kessens <david.kessens@nokia.com>, "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, hubmib@ietf.org =

Subject

xDsl = Bonding

 

 

 



Hi All,

        I would like to thank Edward Beili, Naren Nair and = Moti Morgenstern for agreeing to work as editors on the xDSL Bonding = documents.
Many thanks as well to Clay Sikes, Umberto Bonollo and Scott Baillie for = agreeing to act as reviewers of these documents.

        I am attaching the draft of the updated charter. = Please provide your comments.




        Due to the status of the G.997.1 and WT-129, I wish = to allow additional time before the VDSL2 document goes to Last Call. = This
will allow these documents to be finalised before the work on the VDSL2 = document is completed. I hope that this change is acceptable.
I am expecting reviews from Clay, Naren and Veena on the VDSL2 document = and thank them for their efforts.

       

Best Regards,
Menachem

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