kar: lets play a game.. kar: g1, is there anything different from last time? akash: we wait for the players to align. kar: spear legweak, any difference? sov: earlier we ehwere dying before the finish line. kar: green player, rob: we're trying to move away from the other players and one follow the other. kar: the green player, I noticed was coming out and coming back in line. james: no thats just something happening. kar: Coolpiggyback? miguel: we chased dumbplayer, so it died. kar: a group is staying at the start line. pj: I've tried a destructive strategy which works only with 7+ players. kar: lets discuss about tournament parameters: kar: meanwhile lets start another game. jeff: the first player in a 7 rider dies at the same place as in the 4 rider case. kar: I dont think so... kar: tournaments: players/team: 1-10 (1, 4, 9) distance: D ~ L energy: almost large enough for max speed. E/D: small (~1), medium(~30) and large(~124) teams in race: 1, 4, n, t=r lanes: t*r, 2*t*r andy: maybe number of lanes smaller than T*R. sov: maybe 4 teams.. eric: 1 real player + lot of number of dumbplayers. peter: number of riders == number of teams. miguel: energy almost large enough for max speed deepti: you can simply say E/D >1, <1 kar: what should we do with distance. jeff: distance is propotional to the number of lanes. kar: any other variations? rob: 2 times same player. sasha: is it for teamwork? kar: I think it was because two player with the same code can compete for the same resource. kar: how many people want to see such a configuration. peter: one thing for shortening the tournament is to scale E and D down but keeping the ratio constant. andy: why dont we change one thing at a time. kaR: okay so whats the standard config? r D E E/D t L 4 180K 5M 30 n t*r players/team: 1,3,4,5,6,7,9 D: 180K or 30L E: almost but not large enough for max speed E/D: small(1), medium(30), large(124) t: 1, 4, n, t=r L: t*r, 2*t*r Low Priority: A) 1 real player + N-1 dummy players B) 2 identical players kar: now lets try to predict whats going to happen? hari: I think our player will atleast win one tournament. chris: I think the leapfrog group are always a step behind. andy: lets says red and black groups becasue they've been wnnning consistently. alf: Beat me if you can! john: ppl who've been getting medals might get complacent. kar: so, how did this project compare to what you thought at the start? bogdan: I think it came out to be different from the way you expected it. kar: doesnt matter. chris: I think the best way is not to figure out the mathematical formulas, I spent so much time on figuring out good strategies but in the end its the formulas which win. andy: the reason the parasitic strategies didnt do well was because it was too easy to counter them. lawrence: but we were able to follow good enough time to gain energy to win in the end.