kar: lets play some games. lets try group4's player. kar: it seems to stay where it is. yuan: can we discuss the order of the moves. edan: we thought of a method of spoofing. if we have a pair of organsims and another pair of different organisms. kar: lets play some more games. kar: so group2 seems to survive and hog the whole board pretty well. there seems to be lot of variance in the population. kar: if you were to choose between large variance of population or stable population, what would you choose. gp: I would choose the large variance. ma: As long as it recovers from small population, its the area under the curve that matters. adam: I dont agree, you would lose group when there are other players. lu: its not independent. If you have a large variance and have a large population, that means the opponent has a small population. el: a point to note is that our player stays at a large population for a long long time. edan: in times of less food, some organisms may sacrifice for the other organisms of their player. rooz: think of nature there are lot of examples when large population or large amounts of food are bad for the group. kar: you can deliberately program your organisms to have varying behaviour and some would survive and some would not. jw: we can use the queen bee analogy where the species ensures the survival of queen bee which in turn means that the species survives. kar: yes and you can generalize it to have many queen bees. mb: have some which reproduce fast, and have some which save energy and when the food becomes scarce, these can reproduce fast and hog up all the board. kar: lets see some more players so g1's player seems to survive mostly except in very harsh situations. kar: lets talk about deliverables. ma: maybe have a player that uses the state. rooz: a player that can survive in a harsher climate. kar: so lets have a more robust player which also adjusts when the other parameters which we havent touched today are also changed. kar: as an alternative you could demonstrate a coordinated activity which you can demonstrate. kar: what so you think you might get done by Tuesday ? adam: trying to cover the board but not too much, maybe in a checker-board configuration. mb: have a differentiated population. andy: using communication to optimize strategies. also if you see an isolated soul, you can surround it and strangle it.