Panel - S. Keshav position Networking research was a good idea until it became relevant :-) Networking has the peculiar property that a networked component has to speak to another networked component for any useful work to be done. Unlike OS research, where an unconnected endsystem incompatible with every other endsystem in the world still demonstrates the utility of an idea, in the networking world, your idea has to be widely adopted in order for it to have impact. For instance, an improved TCP++ that is incompatible with existing TCP would be of little use other than in a tiny testbed. Thus, networking, by its very nature, tends to rapidly promote standards, and once these standards are chosen, it is next to impossible to dislodge them, no matter how broken they are. This is the bane of networking research. For instance, due to the widespread use of TCP/IP, research in TCP is, for the most part, meaningless, unless you can show that your improvement co-exists with TCP. Many years ago, for another instance, I decided that further work in flow control was pointless: if you did not do TCP, to be TCP-friendly, you have to work exactly _like_ TCP, so whats the point. This same lesson is being repeated over and over again in other arenas. As a major example, ATM is dead because in order to succeed, it has to look like the Internet! To sum up, networking researchers working in areas that are substantially standardized have to make a hard choice. Either they pursue their dream, and ignore reality, or they pursue reality, and become mired in the goo of the last 30 years of lousy defacto standards. The alternatives are either to give up on research, or to work on an unstandardized (substandard?) area. We are seeing both. As one looks at Sigcomm proceedings, you see more and more an emphasis on non-traditional research. This is the flight from standards. Or, you see people giving up research, because if you going to be fiddling with existing standards, why not make some money off it. (other panelists, no doubt, will elaborate on this last sentence). Which brings me back to my first observation. As long as networking research was irrelevant, we could all do good work. Now, when the success of the Internet has forced relevance upon us, we are seeing the end of (traditional) research.